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Poster: k-otic Date: Sep 27, 2008 2:02pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyrighted Or PD ??

The advatage by searching with Film Chest is that you can see if a title is sold under licence or real public domain

USA ONLY = Sold under licence
WORLDWIDE = Public Domain

the title you have requested is sold by Film Chest and Mill Creek only because they have payed a small licence fee and it is not public domain

This post was modified by k-otic on 2008-09-27 21:02:50

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Sep 27, 2008 8:43pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyrighted Or PD ??

Hold that thought! You need to read 20th Century Fox VS DAYSTAR Corp. and the Supreme Court decision on that case which Fox lost. Unless those USA ONLY titles are still in copyright by the original releasing company, once a title falls into the PD it can not be re-copyrighted by anyone.(So say's the Supreme Court).

The only exception in recent memory was the film IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE but there was a loophole with that film which was upheld by the courts that the copyright was in fact still valid even though claims were made that it was not. It was a long case, and if you ever have the time, it's a very interesting case file to read.

Getting back to the USA ONLY having some type of 'fee' paid for copyright is ridiculous. Case in point: They are selling DAVID COPPERFIELD (1970 version) and so is about six or seven other companies even though it says USA ONLY. On their home page they state all films are in the PD and have been researched as such.

The on-line copyright office info -- although they only list films from 1978 forward, if the film was renewed for copyright, even if it was made in the 1930s, 40s, 50s etc., it will show up in their data base with the copyright renewal registration date and the original copyright date. There are a load of them from the 1950s including TV shows. For Example: Type In THE HOUSE NOBODY WANTED and see what comes up. However, that doesn't mean that everything from the first ever copyrighted film is listed out there.

Chances are there are probably thousands of PD Feature Films and a lot of diligent research would have to be done to confirm their PD status. The probable reason no one (or group of persons) has taken the time to publish a book of all PD Feature Films is that type of a project would no doubt take years of extensive research and decades to compile.

AlphaVideo is another company with 1000s of PD products many of which is TV Shows. They put their little tiny logo on the opening credits of PD TV shows and Movies and that is supposed to give some type of alleged copyright to that PD product and they are not the only one's doing that. Have you purchased a Mill Creek product lately? Notice their logo popping up? Again, it's meaningless. They can not possibly claim copyright to those PD products. All those logo's are doing for them is giving them Free Advertising in the event someone want's to copy the DVD and repackage it, but it does not give them copyrights to those PD products. Someone is one day going to invent a divice that eliminates those logos.

Finally, someone uploaded THE FILE ON THEMA JORDAN a copy of which came directly off of Encore's Mystery Channel replete with Logo. Now that might be questionable.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Sep 28, 2008 3:16am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Copyrighted Or PD ??

> Someone is one day going to invent a divice that eliminates those logos.

You can remove them using aviSynth and virtualDub.
Of course, you can't restore what was underneath the logo.
Although the result isn't perfect, it's usually a lot less
noticeable than the logo was.